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[Billy2005]

I'm totally amazed that Bourne Leisure plan to close Skegness and Minehead resorts in Spring 2007 and move their Skyline Pavilions to Bognor Regis, at a cost of millions.

Where will they put them?

[mattman]

rubbish

[Elephant]

They can't do that.

[Angelbabe]

What they cant do that????????

Where did you hear it from?

That would be a terrible thing to happen

[minehead forever]

this has got to be the biggest load of b*****ks i have ever read on here.
please state your source.

if minehead and skeggy were to close as you say,they would only have one more summer season,please explain if your story was the case why is investment at both camps at an all time high.
bourne arn't stupid. if they were too close both camps after one more season not a single penny will be presently be spent.

[Joker]

please state your source.



I bet it was in a dream :lol:

Have Fun !!!

Joker

[david lythgoe]

WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD?

I HEARD OVER A YEAR AGO THAT BOURNE LEISURE MAY CHANGE ALL THERE PARKS NAMES AND USE A SINGLE IDENTITY.

THE 'BUTLINS' BANNER IS REALY FOR AN ALL INCLUSIVE HOLIDAY.
ARE SKEGGY AND MINEHEAD GOING TO BECOME THE FIRST OF A NEW BRANDING OR A HAVEN / BRITISH HOLIDAY SITE.

[Rainbow]

:lol: first ive heard of it, better tell my fella to start looking for a new job :lol:

i really doubt that this is true.

[Skippy]

Look most camps stopped being Butlins when Rank took over

[Elephant]

According to Google this is the only page on the web that contains such information and if they did dare suggest such an idea to the public, they would not live very much longer.

[arry]

Total rubbish,
The work on the Beachcomber building starts within the next month in Minehead as does the building of a sample timeshare appartment on the old Megazone site.
Hardly the actions of a place closing down!!

[wearecity]

I think this person has just joined to cause trouble.

[TheHardRhymer]

Hahahaha give this man a spot on the comedy circuit!

[wizebuys1]

MONORAIL is that you playing games again?(Billy2005)

[Billy2005]

Sorry not to have explained further, I assumed you guys had read the Spring review and the BLC report that followed.
Rank spent ?50.8 million in 1998/1999 updating the three remaining resorts before selling the whole company, a short while later, to Bourne Leisure. The resorts simply would not have generated a sufficient selling price had they not built the Skyline Pavillions and also updated the resorts in other ways.
The Minehead and Skegness resorts have recently been sold (the sale money partly funded the build of Shoreline), hence the amount of work/upgrading that has been carried out over the last couple of years and, as part of the sale deal, they have to continue working on the sites until the handover in November 2006. This work includes replacing the Skyline Pavillions with a large playing field and power/gas/other utility points for 650 static homes and caravans.
But my question is - How on earth are they going to actually move the Pavillions to West Sussex? One of the Pavilions will be sited on the area in Bognor that is currently a sports field and the other is to go next to the Shoreline Hotel. The current artiste impression designs and CAD effects look terrific.
Anyone got a big truck?!

[TheHardRhymer]

The Minehead and Skegness resorts have recently been sold (the sale money partly funded the build of Shoreline), hence the amount of work/upgrading that has been carried out over the last couple of years and, as part of the sale deal, they have to continue working on the sites until the handover in November 2006. I'm sorry but what buyer would buy something that he had to wait over a year for. Plus Bourne would've held off selling them until this time next year when prices could be even higher.

This work includes replacing the Skyline Pavillions with a large playing field and power/gas/other utility points for 650 static homes and caravans.Come on! There's no way you'd fit a large playing field and 650 caravans into the Skyline space in either of them.

But my question is - How on earth are they going to actually move the Pavillions to West Sussex? Not too hard actually, after September 11th, we offered to move the Millenium Dome (essentially the same build) to New York! Luckily they didn't want it...

One of the Pavilions will be sited on the area in Bognor that is currently a sports field and the other is to go next to the Shoreline Hotel. The current artiste impression designs and CAD effects look terrific.Come on then, share these CAD's with us.

[TheHardRhymer]

Plus it's widely know Bognor is their least profitable resort, why send them there?

[wallace34523]

I'm totally amazed that Bourne Leisure plan to close Skegness and Minehead resorts in Spring 2007 and move their Skyline Pavilions to Bognor Regis, at a cost of millions.

Where will they put them?

WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON ??????????

[Billy2005]

I only provide facts - I didn't realize this Forum was to dispute everything people say!
I hate answering questions but here goes -
Bourne Leisure made the sale when they were advised and the deal is a huge, complex operation - clearly they know what they are doing.
The redelopment, partly carried out by Bourne and partly by the new owner(s) can easily include a playing field and caravans once the exsisitng buildings that the Skylines are structurally attached to/rely on for support are also demolished.
I am trying to gain permission to attach the CADs but Bourne Leisure obviously own the process, treatment, formula, design, drawing and concept and I do need written details from them to do this.
To quote from Bourne:
"The Bognor Resort, solely due to it's guest capacity allowance compared to the other (2) resorts, is currently the least profitable resort but is at a huge geographical/topographical advantage. We have been advised that LCC and SCC planning depts would not allow 2 further Skyline structures within ten (10) miles of the current resorts"
So anyone know how they're gonna move those big white tents yet?

[david lythgoe]

COME ON BILLY 2005, WHATS ACTUALLY BEEN ANNOUCED?

ARE THEY CLOSING, OR HAVE THEY BEEN SOLD?

MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

Bourne Leisure are fully into caravans, (they have even got there own models).

Expect all Parks accomodation to be changed into caravans over the next ????????? years.

[clactonman]

Stop egging him on, he's loving every minute of this.!!!

[wallace34523]

I only provide facts - I didn't realize this Forum was to dispute everything people say!
I hate answering questions but here goes -
Bourne Leisure made the sale when they were advised and the deal is a huge, complex operation - clearly they know what they are doing.
The redelopment, partly carried out by Bourne and partly by the new owner(s) can easily include a playing field and caravans once the exsisitng buildings that the Skylines are structurally attached to/rely on for support are also demolished.
I am trying to gain permission to attach the CADs but Bourne Leisure obviously own the process, treatment, formula, design, drawing and concept and I do need written details from them to do this.
To quote from Bourne:
"The Bognor Resort, solely due to it's guest capacity allowance compared to the other (2) resorts, is currently the least profitable resort but is at a huge geographical/topographical advantage. We have been advised that LCC and SCC planning depts would not allow 2 further Skyline structures within ten (10) miles of the current resorts"
So anyone know how they're gonna move those big white tents yet?

how are you getting this info (do you work for bourne) and why have they anounced butlins time share apertments for 2007? surely they can not sell time shares under the butlins name and then close the camp.

[wallace34523]

Stop egging him on, he's loving every minute of this.!!!

I AGREE CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHO THE MEMBER OF THIS GROUP IS WHO WORKS FOR BUTLINS. I KNOW WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO GETS A LOT OF INSIDE INFO I AM SURE HE WILL KNOW WHEATHER THIS LOAD OF RUBBISH IS TRUE OR NOT.

JOHN

[Billy2005]

Yes they are closing - as Butlins Resorts! But imagine how good the Bognor Resort will be with 3 Skyline Pavillions and all the profits from the sales pumped into just one resort!
The London - Bognor Regis rail upgrade will cut the journey time down and the A27 re-route will help the whole area.
I can't wait!

[wizebuys1]

hmmm maybe this guys related to I AM THE MD anyone remember his posts about by this summer they will have reintroduced most of the shows , comps etc from the 60s.....that never happend either did it

[clactonman]

So anyone know how they're gonna move those big white tents yet?

Maybe in your mouth, it seems big enough :idea:

[david lythgoe]

WHO ARE LCC AND SCC, IF ITS SUPOSED TO BE LINCOLN COUNTY COUNCIL, WHERE DOES EAST LINDSEY END AND LINCOLN START.
ALSO SKEGNESS AND MINEHEAD ARE A BIT MORE THAN 10 MILES APART,JUST!

[James1]

I really cannot begin to believe they would move the skylines! A pointless and expensive task. I imagine the actual fabric would need replacing too, as it would most likely end up getting damaged.

Besides, if they wanted to have caravans at the sites, they would simply demolish all of the old accomodation, which at Minehead would be stretched to include all of the Staff accomodation etc.

Anyway, im going to shut up now, as it will only encourage this person to give us more information whcih is probably made up!

[arry]

Total rubbish.
The fabric of the Skyline cant be reused, it only has a limited life as it is before it needs to be replaced.
Dont you think that if all this 'information' was mentioned in the 'spring review' it might of come to light before now, especially when people that work within Bourne frequently interact on this site.

[Billy2005]

Total rubbish.
The fabric of the Skyline cant be reused, it only has a limited life as it is before it needs to be replaced.
Dont you think that if all this 'information' was mentioned in the 'spring review' it might of come to light before now, especially when people that work within Bourne frequently interact on this site.

The Skyline Pavillions were manufactured in Spring 1998 and assembled on the sites in December 1998. The fabric had a ten-twelve year "life span" but only a 7 year warranty. This warranty has recently expired and in 2007 a new fabric will be fitted to the Pavillions.
If planning is aproved one of the new Skylines will have a red fabric, the other blue. The blue Skyline Pavilion will be able to acheive a full black-out inside the venue and will feature "arena" like seating/staging. It will be called (for some bizarre reason I'm sure!) The Cillit Bang Arena and will be located where the sports field currently is on the Bognor Resort. The red Skyline, situated next to the Shoreline, will house games, competitions, and retro Butlins exhibitions and events - as well as a chairlift.
From the sky the "new Butlins resort" will show the red, white and blue colours that made Billy Butlin so proud.

[raybenuk]

Oooooh you are a tease, Billy2005. You'll go far in life.

[clactonman]

You're good Billy2005, really good. Brightened my Saturday evening up no end, and its months away from April 1st :!:

ps. will the three skylines be linked to each other by some sort of tunneling?

[TheHardRhymer]

this person to give us more information whcih is probably made up!DEFINATLY made up Rick!

[arry]

The Cillit Bang Arena......haha now that is a good idea!!!

I'll get off my high horse now and concede to of been slightly wound up!!

Nice one!! haha

[Billy2005]

No they will not be linked by tunnells - that's just ridiculous!

The blue Skyline, and the current white one, will be situated right next to each other and will not require linking of any description.
The red Skyline will not be linked to anything, other than the reception area of Shoreline and to the beach via a new Day Visitors Entrance.

[TheHardRhymer]

No they will not be linked by tunnells - that's just ridiculous!And you're telling us your suggestions aren't?!?!

[mattman]

and will you be able to float around on magic clouds as well,
you day dreamer

a british company such as bourne would have to make public any sale that has taken place of it's sites i dont see this any where

[Billy2005]

I don't recall making any personal suggestions on here whatsover.

We can't make suggestions, dream up ideas, decide what happens, make decisions or alter any plans.

We can just try and understand what is happening.

[Billy2005]

Matt Man - Bourne Leisure is independantly owned by a consortium and is not a public owned or limited company.
Do you make the public aware when sell your car or when you buy a loaf of bread.
Check out the facts.

[mattman]

does not matter i wlll phone local councils for minehead and skegness on monday they will have records of who ownes land

[TheHardRhymer]

Matt Man - Bourne Leisure is independantly owned by a consortium and is not a public owned or limited company.
Do you make the public aware when sell your car or when you buy a loaf of bread.
Check out the facts.On the back of a leaflet: Copyright Bourne Leisure Limited.

If you got your facts straight you'd know all limited companies (public or private) accounts are public.

[clactonman]

and will you be able to float around on magic clouds as well,

Do you think we'll all get a magic cloud mattman or are they just for gold guests?
Surely they would be quite dangerous with all the offshore wind around Bognor. You might hop on one with the intension of travelling to the blue skyline and the wind could blow you towards the red skyline. And what if you fall off? Are Bourne insured for this?

[raybenuk]

Nice move, TheHardRhymer

[david lythgoe]

Are they going in for flying pigs and albino elephants too.

[mattman]

and will you be able to float around on magic clouds as well,

Do you think we'll all get a magic cloud mattman or are they just for gold guests?
Surely they would be quite dangerous with all the offshore wind around Bognor. You might hop on one with the intension of travelling to the blue skyline and the wind could blow you towards the red skyline. And what if you fall off? Are Bourne insured for this?

sorry all magic clouds are band because of health and safety just like chairlifts and monorail

[TheHardRhymer]

Nice move, TheHardRhymerI thank you :D

[Billy2005]

Robert Sweeney at Minehead Town Councils Planning Dept can be contacted on 01643 707213
Sheila Davis at Skegness Consultation Group can be contacted on 01507 329557

I think that Butlins Skyline-Limited (a subsidary of Bourne Leisure) are still the registered owners until the November 2006 handover date.

The chairlift, in one of the newly relocated Pavilions, has yet to pass a Risk Assessment, health and safety check, insurance assesment or PACT test.

[TheHardRhymer]

Robert Sweeney at Minehead Town Councils Planning Dept can be contacted on 01643 707213
Sheila Davis at Skegness Consultation Group can be contacted on 01507 329557

I think that Butlins Skyline-Limited (a subsidary of Bourne Leisure) are still the registered owners until the November 2006 handover date.
So basically you're saying if you call these people, they will tell you they belong to Butlins Skyline LIMITED (a subsidary of Bourne Leisure LIMITED) and will get nowhere.

[Billy2005]

I don't think they will tell you anything unless you have a very good reason for them to disclose such information.
I think Bourne Leisure Ltd will make further announcements in the future and you really need to decide how it affects you, as an individual, anyway.
There will still be a very good Butlins Resort and that must be BL's way of thinking I guess. They have sold two resorts, that belonged to them - and only to them, so they are not required to publish any more information than they have already in Spring of this year.

[TheHardRhymer]

They have sold two resorts, that belonged to them - and only to them, so they are not required to publish any more information than they have already in Spring of this year.They are required by law to publish their accounts and I think a sum of money that large would've been noticed.

[mattman]

I don't think they will tell you anything unless you have a very good reason for them to disclose such information.
I think Bourne Leisure Ltd will make further announcements in the future and you really need to decide how it affects you, as an individual, anyway.
There will still be a very good Butlins Resort and that must be BL's way of thinking I guess. They have sold two resorts, that belonged to them - and only to them, so they are not required to publish any more information than they have already in Spring of this year.

wrong under building and land acts. the council and land regisrty still have to be informed even if they do not change names for a year or 2 the owners are not bl according to you and this like any land change has to be logged with authorites

[TheHardRhymer]

wrong under building and land acts. the council and land regisrty still have to be informed even if they do not change names for a year or 2 the owners are not bl according to you and this like any land change has to be logged with authoritesAnd a quick check on the land registry site proves it hasn't been.

[Billy2005]

Well clearly the accounts would not show any amount of money at this stage - maybe not until handover.

Do you really beleive that when a company sells assests as large as this that one party simply hands over the cash to another?

It is completely not our business to discuss the internal workings and logistics of such an operation but to discuss the point I made when starting this post - how do you move two big tents like that?

But it is clear that they are not rebranding, such as with Ayr and Pwelli (I can't spell that one!) in Dec 98, but are actually selling the two sites altogether to "enable the company to develop, expand and concentrate on it's core business. Operating one, single ,resort and making this resort an adult guest only operation is where we need to head"

[kkbtb]

Butlins......Adult Only..........Dont make me laugh :lol: :lol: :lol:

you clearly are from another planet

[TheHardRhymer]

Operating one, single ,resort and making this resort an adult guest only operation is where we need to head"Adult guest only? Who you trying to kid?

[Billy2005]

I am amazed at the number of qualified professionals who visit this forum. Some of you seem to know a lot about building and land acts, councils, land registry, and many other legalaties.
You simply cannot comment on such things by looking up a few things on the Internet.

[TheHardRhymer]

I am amazed at the number of qualified professionals who visit this forum. Some of you seem to know a lot about building and land acts, councils, land registry, and many other legalaties.
You simply cannot comment on such things by looking up a few things on the Internet.Well beleive it or not I deal very closely with the council, particualry the freedom of information department, about land, and have delt with the Land Registry too. It is an area that I have good knowldge of so I know you're talking tripe!

[Billy2005]

The Bognor Regis Resort has not operated PG breaks at all in 2005. It has U breaks and 24 adult only breaks. One adult weekend generates more income (from bar, restaurant sales etc) than one whole month of family breaks. I beleive another major holiday resort company only caters for children for this reason. The Shoreline, I've been there this week on work, is totally and completely NOT designed for children or families whatsover and neither will the new resort, to open in Spring 2007, be either.

So those tents - do u think they might use a really big lorry?

[Billy2005]

sorry this line - I beleive another major holiday resort company only caters for children for this reason. from my previous post was supposed to read - I beleive another major holiday resort company only caters for ADULTS for this reason.

I'm tired!

[TheHardRhymer]

[quote="Billy2005"]The Shoreline, I've been there this week on work, is totally and completely NOT designed for children or families whatsover and neither will the new resort, to open in Spring 2007, be either.
quote]Hence the provision of "special kids areas have their own TV/DVD"

[clactonman]

So those tents - do u think they might use a really big lorry?

Turn them upside down and float them round the coast..easy

[TheHardRhymer]

sorry this line - I beleive another major holiday resort company only caters for children for this reason. from my previous post was supposed to read - I beleive another major holiday resort company only caters for ADULTS for this reason.

I'm tired!By that I assume you mean Warner Breaks, also owened by Bourne Lesiure Limited, and run completly different to Butlins.

[kkbtb]

maybe discokev has chatted up a pretty nurse and got himself internet connection to wind us all up!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mattman]

So those tents - do u think they might use a really big lorry?

Turn them upside down and float them round the coast..easy

why move them if the material needs replacing , by the time they have moved framework they may as well start from scratch as the current skylines are designed to fit building at current sites. they would need to be heavly modified to be reused not very cost effective

[Billy2005]

Well the large 250 tonne stantions that go into the ground further than they are seen above ground is hardly a "framework" is it! That's ?35 million of frame work! The fabric is a fraction of the cost of the Skyline Pavillion and it needs replacing anyway soon.

Drilling test work has already begun on the Bognor Resort as the ground next to the Shoreline is not very stable and many sewerage systems will need to be diverted.

Isn't anybody excited about seeing three of those amazing structures sat side by side?

[mattman]

Well the large 250 tonne stantions that go into the ground further than they are seen above ground is hardly a "framework" is it! That's ?35 million of frame work! The fabric is a fraction of the cost of the Skyline Pavillion and it needs replacing anyway soon.

Drilling test work has already begun on the Bognor Resort as the ground next to the Shoreline is not very stable and many sewerage systems will need to be diverted.

Isn't anybody excited about seeing three of those amazing structures sat side by side?

ok your wright i'm wrong everthing you say is correct i am a complete ##'#*

[billybusdriver]

Turn them upside down and float them round the coast..easyWhat a super idea, please let me know when, and I will talk to some of my ex navy mates, my old skipper is an admiral these days, and see if we can get them torpedoed. But as for this topic, its nice to know we can have this much comedy without having to pay?.

[Pushbutton]

well at least if nothing else this has really re-ignited some real debate on this forum. It's been too quiet for too long!

I can only hope there's no truth in it though, and I really doubt it as all the evidence in recent years shows that Bourne are really starting to embrace the Butlins name. (For example they have made a major feature out of the Billy Bear character, obviously named after Sir Billy)

[Pushbutton]

Robert Sweeney at Minehead Town Councils Planning Dept can be contacted on 01643 707213
Sheila Davis at Skegness Consultation Group can be contacted on 01507 329557

I think that Butlins Skyline-Limited (a subsidary of Bourne Leisure) are still the registered owners until the November 2006 handover date.

The chairlift, in one of the newly relocated Pavilions, has yet to pass a Risk Assessment, health and safety check, insurance assesment or PACT test.

That would have tobe a very small chairlift!!!

[wizebuys1]

The chairlift, in one of the newly relocated Pavilions, has yet to pass a Risk Assessment, health and safety check, insurance assesment or PACT test.
how big is this skyline going to be!!!!(the chairlifts i remember went way above the camps & were approx 1/2 mile long)
i thought borne was a FRENCH companey
the skylines are resinated once built ,so coundnt be moved anyway & if it only has a 10 year life span why not leave them where they are & build new?

[minehead forever]

as mentioned before i get minehead's local paper the free press on subs.
if somebodies mobile gets nicked at butlins it gets printed,so surely something which would massively effect the town would of had some sort of coverage in the paper.although butlins isn't liked by the locals it is excepted because it keeps the town alive.
plus the town council has a councillor called bryan leaker ( used to be camp director at minehead ),so i am sure he would of picked up on any news coming out of butlins.
maybe the real reason is billy 2005 is going for gazza's record of replies to a topic. :lol: :lol:

[Billy2005]

The chair lift will obviously only be a 70 foot high demonstration of an original 1953 chairlift.
Bourne Leisure is a 100% British owned company.
BRIAN Leaker, Minehead's previous RESORT director is aware of the situation but what makes anybody think they have the right to be told by him on this forum or, indeed, in a local newspaper!
And finally, we seem to be making things up now - let's keep to facts. What on earth does "resinated" mean? Do we have structural engineers reading the forum all of a sudden? The Skyline structure has no "resin" or after product applied whatsover and they can be dismantled and moved to an area that has had the appropriate pre-drill/foundation work completed. The Skyline Pavilions will be relocated in 2007 by the company that originally manufactored and built them - the stantions, fabric and cables were built in Ireland and mananged to get to Somerset, Lincolnshire and Sussex okay.

[TheHardRhymer]

Bourne Leisure is a 100% British owned company.
Goodness me, he's got something right!

It's just like the streets of Edingburgh during the festival - free comedy.

[kkbtb]

i'll hand it to you billy2005, you have certainly done alot of research for a practical joke :lol: :lol:

if your not careful though you will start to believe all this rubbish yourself!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[david lythgoe]

IS IT TRUE THAT THE TOP MEN AT BL WHO ARE MAKING 'BUTLINS' SLOWLY DISAPPEAR ARE CALLED PAUL DANIELS AND DAVID COPPERFIELD AND THEY HAVE THE MOVING OF THE SKYLINE PAVILIONS IN HAND.

[Pushbutton]

Hi Billy2005, I think I read somewhere on the internet recently that at the remaining Bognor resort they will be changing the colour of redcoats to stripey green, orange and black coats that glow in the dark and turn transparent when it rains. It was just a rumour though according to that site, is it true?

The site also announced that the accomodation at Butlins Bognor will take the form of padded cells and the resort will become a prison for seriously deranged criminals from all over Europe. I hope this is not true because it would be quite scary. It would explain though why they're slowly closing down all the fun attractions I suppose.

Is it also true that the 3 combined red, white and blue skylines will be the new home of the Royal Family, (as a replacement for the ageing Windsor Castle), and that the structure will be visable from the planet Jupiter?

Apparently Bourne Leisure are to retain a stake in the project so that they will have exclusive rights to run daily shuttle trips to and from Jupiter to view the skyline. If so can you tell us how one goes about booking a flight on this spacecraft and how much a weekend Butlins break to Jupiter will cost?

I also heard that the USA and Russian Presidents are to move into the Skyline with the Queen, as well as Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussian (once his trial is complete). Have you heard any further news on that?

[minehead forever]

i'm sure this topic can be put to bed tomorrow when i'm sure most of us will be trying our best to get confirmation on this or clarifying our own thoughts on this wind up.
i've emailed bourne telling them of billy2005 story,so hopefully i will get a reply once they've stopped rolling round the floor laughing. :lol: :lol:

[kkbtb]

nice one pushbutton :D

i would rather you didnt buy out butlins but if you decide to embark upon this adventure elsewhere i would deffinately be the first to book up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Little Lucy]

My last post until tomorrow. Seems you need more answers to your ludicrously banal questions:

The reds uniforms will not change colour - but the red coat presence will be far less from 2007, as it is on the current Adult only breaks.

Bognor Regis already has a prison in nearby Ford.

There are no plans for the Royal Family, or any Presidents to visit the resort. The guest of honour at the Opening Ceremony will not be announced for some time.

Bourne Leisure will continue to own Butlins Bognor Regis Resort so will control slightly more than a mere "stake".

And the pole amused me.

Any one going to anwser my original question or is anybody else up for reading the whole 6 pages and then posting something totally irrelevant to the whole debate?

Yours lovingly

Billy

[Little Lucy]

Apologies for appearing as Lucy. Somebody has blocked my use of Billy2005. Thought I'd clear that up as it's obviously confusing some of you. I'll tell you what - I'll sign off here -

BILLY2005

[wizebuys1]

1st billy now lucy who you gonna be next?

[BarryIslandBabe]

1st billy now lucy who you gonna be next?


Pinnochio - oh, sorry he's already that. This is the funniest topic I've read in ages.

Lets face it, this guy is a complete fantasist, he just wants to wind everyone up - and he's succeeded!! Has he actually named his source, or is it buried within the last 6 pages somewhere!!

Moving all of the Skylines to Bognor??? Yeh right, utter rubbish. More chance of Barry Island re-opening.

regards,

Julie (Barry Island Babe) xx

[billybusdriver]

Hi Billy2005

I also heard that the USA and Russian Presidents are to move into the Skyline with the Queen, as well as Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussian (once his trial is complete). Have you heard any further news on that?What you forgot the bit about Lord lucan moving in too, come on pushbutton wake up.

[billybusdriver]

Hi Billy2005

I also heard that the USA and Russian Presidents are to move into the Skyline with the Queen, as well as Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussian (once his trial is complete). Have you heard any further news on that?And laika the russian dog-manought..

[Redcoat Jase]

What i dont get, if this is true, why did Butlins bother with the re-branding? - Changing Redcoat's Uniforms, Building new Check-Ins at Skegness, Changing the Logo and planning to build new Hotels at Minehead? Doesn't seem to add up to me!

And who is this 'Billy2005' person anyway?

[billybusdriver]

And who is this 'Billy2005' person anyway?Good question, I have an idea, but I will keep it too myself.

[Elephant]

What I don't understand is how Billy2005 just assumed we all knew it was happening when he knew full well there'd be no way we could, if it was true.

[TheHardRhymer]

What I don't understand is how Billy2005 just assumed we all knew it was happening when he knew full well there'd be no way we could, if it was true.An EXCELLENT point!! One minute he's surprised we hadn't read some document, then the next he says we should know anyway cos it's top secret military planning.

[billybusdriver]

Not too worry "billy2005" maybe only has a weekend pass from the special care hospital.

[Elephant]

Something else I can't help thinking is that when my mum and I went to look at buying a caravan on site in Minehead, we were told about all these guarantees etc that we'd still be able to rent the land in ten years and it would still be Butlin's etc etc. If they were planning on getting rid of Butlin's there then they'd have to gradually lower the guarantees over a period of about ten or fifteen years.

[Redcoat Jase]

Sorry not to have explained further, I assumed you guys had read the Spring review and the BLC report that followed.
Rank spent ?50.8 million in 1998/1999 updating the three remaining resorts before selling the whole company, a short while later, to Bourne Leisure. The resorts simply would not have generated a sufficient selling price had they not built the Skyline Pavillions and also updated the resorts in other ways.
The Minehead and Skegness resorts have recently been sold (the sale money partly funded the build of Shoreline), hence the amount of work/upgrading that has been carried out over the last couple of years and, as part of the sale deal, they have to continue working on the sites until the handover in November 2006. This work includes replacing the Skyline Pavillions with a large playing field and power/gas/other utility points for 650 static homes and caravans.
But my question is - How on earth are they going to actually move the Pavillions to West Sussex? One of the Pavilions will be sited on the area in Bognor that is currently a sports field and the other is to go next to the Shoreline Hotel. The current artiste impression designs and CAD effects look terrific.
Anyone got a big truck?!

Hmmm! - The Shorline only cost ?10million, i think that the selling price for more than Half of Butlins would be enough to beild at least 5 Shoreline Hotels!

[Redcoat Jase]

Also do you think anybody in the right mind is going to grant planning permission for 3 Giant Tents on the south coast of England in the colours Red, White and Blue! - The Colours of the Union Flag- Certainly not in our day and age! Me thinks not!

[Elephant]

Also the Skylines are fairly new and if they were putting everything in Bognor they would have had to have been planning it already by the time they were building the Skylines in the first place, so why not build them all at Bognor straight away?

[Redcoat Jase]

I want to know how this 'Billy2005' knows and if he is a Bourne Leisure official what is he doing leaking information like that, i would say it's more than his Jobs worth!!

[James1]

Going by the theory that the recently built Skylins are both being moved to one site i.e. Bognor, I would also presume that the new blocks of accomodation at Skegness (Oyster bay and Starfish quay) will also be moved to the Bognor site, to replace the older accomodation there!

That way there would be more room for caravans at Skegness!

:D :D

[Redcoat Jase]

Not forgetting the SPA! and the newly built Gold Check-In and modernised pool entrance! :D

[Elephant]

I assume that the catchphrase "Kids love it" will be extended to "Kids love it but aren't allowed to go there so HAHA SUCKERS!!!!111oneone"

[kkbtb]

just to cure my curiosity i took the liberty of emailing skegness and asking them when the earliest date was that i could book to go to skeggy in november 2007.

here is their reply :-

Dear Karen

Thank you for your e-mail

All 2007 breaks will be available to book in April 2006 when the new
brochure is released.

Please include all previous correspondence as this will enable us to deal
with your enquiry more efficiently, should you need a response.

If you require any further assistance, please don't hesitate to call me on
0870 242 1999.

Alternatively, you can email us at butlins.holidays@bourne-leisure.co.uk

Kind Regards

Luke

Butlins Email Team

[zoea]

sorry billy2005 (and any one else who may be offended by this) but i think ur an idiot and u r talking out of ur a**e!!! :roll: but hey thats just my opinion :evil:

[mattman]

sorry billy2005 (and any one else who may be offended by this) but i think ur an idiot and u r talking out of ur a**e!!! :roll: but hey thats just my opinion :evil:

well said

[minehead forever]

butlins have just got back to me.they have called pinochio's tale rubbish,and confirmed we can all enjoy holidays at all 3 butlins resorts for years to come.

billy 2005 we will all treat you now as we do with monorail...ignore you.

[billybusdriver]

butlins have just got back to me.they have called pinochio's tale rubbish,and confirmed we can all enjoy holidays at all 3 butlins resorts for years to come.

billy 2005 we will all treat you now as we do with monorail...ignore you.Maybe they are one and the same.

[Pinnochio]

My source is within the last 7 pages - read carefully (I know most of you struggle with that).
Billy Bus Driver knows who I am. I don't think he does.
I have never, ever used the phrase "secret military planning" on this site.
Elephant - You will be able to rent the land at the resort you mentioned as the new owners will be obliged, as part of the recent sale, to honour any exsisiting rental agreements.
James1 - the Pavilions are hardly recent - by handover they will almost be a decade old.
Red Coat Jase - Can you remind me in which post I referred to myself as a "Bourne Leisure official"?
KKBTB - The Butlins 2006 Summer Brochure will include adult only breaks at the Butlins Resort in Bognor Regis - obviously "Luke" isn't important enough to have been informed yet.
Minehead Forever - I am totally confident that you, or 50% of the people reading this, will NOT ignore me. But go on - try.

x x
xx

[wizebuys1]

MONORAIL is that you playing games again?(Billy2005)snap

[Elephant]

My source is within the last 7 pages - read carefully (I know most of you struggle with that).
Billy Bus Driver knows who I am. I don't think he does.
I have never, ever used the phrase "secret military planning" on this site.
Elephant - You will be able to rent the land at the resort you mentioned as the new owners will be obliged, as part of the recent sale, to honour any exsisiting rental agreements.
James1 - the Pavilions are hardly recent - by handover they will almost be a decade old.
Red Coat Jase - Can you remind me in which post I referred to myself as a "Bourne Leisure official"?
KKBTB - The Butlins 2006 Summer Brochure will include adult only breaks at the Butlins Resort in Bognor Regis - obviously "Luke" isn't important enough to have been informed yet.
Minehead Forever - I am totally confident that you, or 50% of the people reading this, will NOT ignore me. But go on - try.

x x
xx


Hush now :wink:

[minehead forever]

why does this idiot keep on posting under different usernames,and why if the fantasies true have butlins themselves just lied to me.

[Pinnochio]

Thought you were ignoring me?

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[Redcoat Jase]

I want to know how this 'Billy2005' knows and if he is a Bourne Leisure official what is he doing leaking information like that, i would say it's more than his Jobs worth!!

Nobody said that you were a BL official! - the important word there is 'IF'

[mattman]

My source is within the last 7 pages - read carefully (I know most of you struggle with that).
Billy Bus Driver knows who I am. I don't think he does.
I have never, ever used the phrase "secret military planning" on this site.
Elephant - You will be able to rent the land at the resort you mentioned as the new owners will be obliged, as part of the recent sale, to honour any exsisiting rental agreements.
James1 - the Pavilions are hardly recent - by handover they will almost be a decade old.
Red Coat Jase - Can you remind me in which post I referred to myself as a "Bourne Leisure official"?
KKBTB - The Butlins 2006 Summer Brochure will include adult only breaks at the Butlins Resort in Bognor Regis - obviously "Luke" isn't important enough to have been informed yet.
Minehead Forever - I am totally confident that you, or 50% of the people reading this, will NOT ignore me. But go on - try.

x x
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shut up mate your boring

[Billy2005]

I am quite dull.

There is only one thing slightly more boring than me. And that's somebody that spends time reading my boring posts.

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[mattman]

I am quite dull.

There is only one thing slightly more boring than me. And that's somebody that spends time reading my boring posts.

x
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if your post are as truthful as you say how could they be boring.
however if as we all expect your post are full of c#;p then you have far to much time on your hands and should learn to do something worth while, rather than just plain annoying everyone whilst entertaining your boring little life.

[Billy2005]

I'll change jobs then so I'm not so boring.

Maybe I'll become a Redcoat, finish my contract, and keep the red coat jacket (I'm sure this is stealing. Yes it definetely would be. Total stealing) and then sell it on Ebay!

I could make a fortune.

Know anybody that wants one?

I can do pre-1999, 99-04 Style and I've a few old ladies one's from the 60's. Can't get any new one's yet but I'm working on it!

Love you

[Elephant]

Here are some suggestions of hobbies you may want to take up:

Rollerblading

Music

Skateboarding

Surfing

Chess

Skipping

Hopscotch

Reading

Get yourself a place at med school and become a doctor

Find a way to get rid of poverty

Work as a volunteer with disabled children/adults

Magic tricks and illusions

Painting

Writing


Whatever you choose to do, make sure you don't waste it. Life is too precious to waste. It would also be advisable to stay away from internet forums as you are likely to annoy people.

[mattman]

you could also be a story writer (fantasy stories of course) as i am sure you would be good at that

[butlins minehead]

Crikey I go to Butlins for one night, come back and all hell has broken loose on here.

Didn't get to meet up with Jintygirl and DarrenP didn't get there till 12 o'clock, then had to view a caravan.

Sorry, that will wind up eveyone.

Anyway the caravan sales manager didn't mention anything about him loosing his job for Butlins, though there is a massive sign advertising caravans available at Doniford Bay so maybe Bourne Leisure are trying to integrate their sites because Doniford ( Haven ) and Butlins have never seemed to work together before.

If however there are going to be 600 + caravan plots available in 2007 they may need more than one salesman and he did have a colleague with him which I have also never seen before.

So maybe something is up!

Judith

[zoea]

i got a new hobby for billy2005, its bungee jumping, without a cord of course, :twisted: go away, the only reason youre getting so many replies is coz u r so full of s**t its funny!

[Little Lucy]

Hey Matt Man sorry if I annoyed you. Does your red coat jacket fit?

Elephant - this is "likely to annoy you" oooooooohhhhhhhhhh

Judith - now u seem to talk sense - u must know things too

Zoea - I'm glad ur enjoying this lively debate

Lots love

Billy x

[Pushbutton]

Hi Billy2005

I also heard that the USA and Russian Presidents are to move into the Skyline with the Queen, as well as Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussian (once his trial is complete). Have you heard any further news on that?What you forgot the bit about Lord lucan moving in too, come on pushbutton wake up.

Oh that's right yes, I do remember that. Thanks for reminding me!

Yes apparently Bourne have signed an agreement to lease space in the Skyline jointly to all the above individuals from 2007 until 3007, with an option to renew the lease at that point for a further 50,000 years.

Sounds like a very lucrative venture which should certainly ensure Bourne has a long and successful future!

[arry]

Judith,
Simple reason for the Donniford sign at Minehead, and also for the second sales manager being there at the moment.
Wont go into it on here as a certain person will try and tell you otherwise, trust me on this one!!

[Pushbutton]

STOP PRESS :!:

It's ok everyone, Billy2005 just phoned me and asked me to let you know that Bourne leisure have had a rethink, and decided to buy back Skegness and Minehead!

They have also aquired a few other sites including Filey, Ayr, Pwhelli, Barry Island, Clacton and Mosney.

The new plan now is that they will be re-building all the old Butlins Camps exactly as they used to be in the 1980s, with the 'new' old camps due to open progressively from 2012 to 2015.

Following that Skegness, Minehead and Bognor camps will be temporarily closed whilst the skylines are removed and all the original attractions are re-built (Monorail, chairlifts etc) These camps are to re-open by 2017.

However Billy2005 tells me that Bourne are still keen to press ahead with their single branding plans, so all Haven and British Holidays parks are to be re-branded as Butlins by 2014, and they will also be gradually upgraded to include all the famous Butlins attractions.

Thanks for that info Billy2005, we all believe you now!

[david lythgoe]

HERE WE GO AGAIN THEN.

RANK SOLD THEMSELVES PART OF FILEY BACK IN THE 80's AND NOW YOU SAY BOURNE LEISURE HAVE PAID THEMSELVES TO BUY AYR AND PWHELLI BACK.
THEY ALREADY OWN THEM BUT UNDER HAVEN NOW.

IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY AND WIND US UP, DO TRY NOT TO MAKE SIMPLE MISTAKES, OR IS THIS DONE TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW IT IS A WIND UP.

[Pushbutton]

David, would it help if I also told you that Bourne have now sold ALL the Butlins camps and ex-Butlins camps back to Sir Billy Butlin's estate, and that they are making it compulsory for campers to shout HideHi to each other and to wear 1950s style clothes and hairstyles whilst on camp. Mobile phones, computers and in fact ANYTHING made since 1969 will be strictly prohibited on Butlins property at any time.

Apparently they're really going in for the 'retro' style of holidays.

[billybusdriver]

David, would it help if I also told you that Bourne have now sold ALL the Butlins camps and ex-Butlins camps back to Sir Billy Butlin's estate, and that they are making it compulsory for campers to shout HideHi to each other and to wear 1950s style clothes and hairstyles whilst on camp. Mobile phones, computers and in fact ANYTHING made since 1969 will be strictly prohibited on Butlins property at any time.

Apparently they're really going in for the 'retro' style of holidays.Now that sounds brilliant, I will book if its true, HaHaHa.

[Redcoat Jase]

Thanks for your e-mail Jase and I can confirm I have no idea where this
suggestion came from. There are no such plans, logistically it would be
impossible to move the Skylines, also cannot understand why Butlins would
consider consolidating on to our smallest Resort so the person who started
the rumour obviously has no idea about the workings of Butlins. Thankfully
it appears someone is just trying to create mischief on the site.

Chris Baron

[billybusdriver]

Brilliant, well Jase that has finally put an end to billy2005, and his stupid ideas.

[david lythgoe]

Thanks Pushbutton,

I think I know which site could be a model for the retro park, its just up the road from PV --- Oooops! BL own that one too.

[mattman]

David, would it help if I also told you that Bourne have now sold ALL the Butlins camps and ex-Butlins camps back to Sir Billy Butlin's estate, and that they are making it compulsory for campers to shout HideHi to each other and to wear 1950s style clothes and hairstyles whilst on camp. Mobile phones, computers and in fact ANYTHING made since 1969 will be strictly prohibited on Butlins property at any time.

Apparently they're really going in for the 'retro' style of holidays.

retro i hope you don't mean the sites will all be like ch4 wakey wakey wakey

[wizebuys1]

Thanks for your e-mail Jase and I can confirm I have no idea where this
suggestion came from. There are no such plans, logistically it would be
impossible to move the Skylines, also cannot understand why Butlins would
consider consolidating on to our smallest Resort so the person who started
the rumour obviously has no idea about the workings of Butlins. Thankfully
it appears someone is just trying to create mischief on the site.

Chris Baron

yep have to agree here ...WELL DONE JASE & thanks

[Redcoat Jase]

No Problem....I really don't know why i bother! (Apparently, according to Markb03, everyone hates me anyway!) :roll:

[Angelbabe]

Jase take no notice what other people say about u ive always found you polite and your posts are interesting

[wizebuys1]

No Problem....I really don't know why i bother! (Apparently, according to Markb03, everyone hates me anyway!) :roll:i dont think weve had a cross word have we?

[Redcoat Jase]

Thanx Angelbabe! - No i dont think we have Wizbuys! lol :D

[wizebuys1]

then dont worry what Markb03 says , if you p*ss me of ill tell you :wink:

[wallace34523]

Crikey I go to Butlins for one night, come back and all hell has broken loose on here.

Didn't get to meet up with Jintygirl and DarrenP didn't get there till 12 o'clock, then had to view a caravan.

Sorry, that will wind up eveyone.

Anyway the caravan sales manager didn't mention anything about him loosing his job for Butlins, though there is a massive sign advertising caravans available at Doniford Bay so maybe Bourne Leisure are trying to integrate their sites because Doniford ( Haven ) and Butlins have never seemed to work together before.

If however there are going to be 600 + caravan plots available in 2007 they may need more than one salesman and he did have a colleague with him which I have also never seen before.

So maybe something is up!


they have been advertising other bourne caravan parks for sometime now in the skyline in bognor so i dont think this is anythig new and i have also spoke to the bognor call center today about a holiday next year and i mentioned what has been said and she quiet bluntly said total rubbish they are at present looking at more ereas which can be used for car parks let alone 2 more skylines.

Judith

[Redcoat Jase]

At Haven Golden Sands there is a caravan sales pitch and most of the stickers in the window say Butlins on them! - Maybe they ran out of Haven Signs!
Also, Butlins doesn't feature on the Owners Exclusive website under the list of parks you can buy a caravan at and Butlins don't have a Owners Exclusive centre (yet!!)
I reckon Owners Exclusive is one of the biggest money makers for Bourne Leisure!!

[mattman]

always look on the bright side of life

[wizebuys1]

de dum de dum de dum de dum de dum (life of brian)

[mattman]

...always look on the bright side of life!
whistle

Always look on the bright side of life...
If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten!
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing,

When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps,
Just purse your lips and whistle -- that's the thing!
And... always look on the bright side of life...

whistle
Come on!

Always look on the bright side of life...
whistle

For life is quite absurd,
And death's the final word.
You must always face the curtain with a bow!
Forget about your sin -- give the audience a grin,
Enjoy it -- it's the last chance anyhow!

So always look on the bright side of death!
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
Life's a piece of sh*t,
When you look at it.

Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true,
You'll see it's all a show,
Keep 'em laughing as you go.
Just remember that the last laugh is on you!

And always look on the bright side of life...
whistle
Always look on the bright side of life
whistle

[wizebuys1]

ive still got the film on vhs

[mattman]

ive still got the film on vhs
great film but i prefere holy grail

[imported_admin]

As much as this thread has interested me, this has well and truly gone off topic. If you want to continue chatting about this, please feel free to start a new topic.